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Interview: Fun Lovin’ Criminals on ‘A Matter of Time,’ Their Return to America, Tarantino & In-N-Out Burger

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A Matter of Time is your first album since 2019. I gave it a listen the other day and it’s a very cool record. However, that’s a long time between albums. What inspired you all to get back into the studio after all this time?

FAST: The last, proper original material record, was 2010 with Classic Fantastic. In 2019, we went in the studio to try and work on some new material, but that ended up being the second covers record, Another Mimosa, which Frank and I weren’t really feeling creatively, but it was good to do.

The band went through some big changes with the singer (Huey Morgan) leaving in 2021. It was important for Frank and I to get back in the studio, get music out, and get a new guitar player, which Naim [Cortazzi] fills the role perfectly. It was getting to where we wanted to do a full album, and we were just creatively ready. Everything was feeling really good. And to get in and do an album is what we needed to do.

Frank and I were in there writing the music in June, a year before the record dropped and we took our time with it. We came up with so many great ideas that it was hard to whittle them down, and when you haven’t been in a creative place creating music, it obviously is very frustrating. So, the fact that we had this renewed lease with the band, with the changes that happened in 2021, it was great for Frank and I to get in a studio like we did back when he joined the band, and just get loads of beats and ideas down.

Frank Benbini: We had to come up with something really good because it was such a long time from putting a record out. The quality control for the album was super high. There was a bunch of songs, some made it, some didn’t make it. I told Fast when we were going into the studio that it was very important to get some of the fun back into the Fun Lovin’ Criminals. I think that had been lost especially with our experiences with a past member. We wanted to get back to having some kind of fun, going into the studio with ideas, accepting each other’s ideas, mashing it out until we could create great songs.

It’s been so cool because since we’ve been playing this new record certain songs have been going down so well with the fans, as well as any of our old hits which is super pleasing when you’re writing something in the studio. You never know how it’s going to be received. I always try to make music for myself. If I can please myself with something that we’ve written, and I think that’s all you can do as an artist, then you just hope that your fans are going to jump on it. Well, they absolutely have.

There’s a handful of new songs that when we play, the crowd goes friggin’ mad when we’re finished. There’s no better response or feeling for something you’ve penned, or tracked in the studio. So, A Matter of Time has gone down really well. And here we are, back in America, which we didn’t think we’d ever do again after the last time we played here a few years ago. So here we are, coming off a really successful European tour.

A Matter of Time

Why didn’t you think you’d come back to the States?

Frank Benbini: It’s super difficult [and] it’s super expensive to come all the way over the pond, as you can imagine. Back in the day we were touring with U2 and playing in stadiums, then we left. We left this market for over two decades before we really came back and tried to tour on the West and the East Coast. We did little bits, but never really on an album cycle. So, you never know when you’re gonna get back to the States, but obviously it’s a big deal. It’s a big deal for Fast, he’s from here. It’s a big deal for me because my mum used to live in San Francisco, just down the road from where I’m doing this chat now. I’ve always loved the States, and it’s great to come back here. Whether or not we’re playing to the crowds that we play to in Europe, it don’t matter. We’ll bring the fun, we’ll bring our sound, and hopefully the people that are in the room will dig it. We’re still beating the system, brother, you know what I mean? We’re still rock ‘n roll.

FAST: I was talking with someone yesterday about how a band from Canada will tour all over America now, and that’s cool, but they do it in waves. They can’t go to Europe anymore. They can’t tour over there, so it’s very similar with bands in Europe. Even bands from the UK have a hard time touring in Europe — just the cost of everything making it happen. Like Frank said, just to be back in America doing some shows whether it’s five people or 500 people, we’re ready to tear it down for them.

I never put you guys together as a UK band, because every time I hear your band, I’m like this is straight out of New York City. You guys literally have a song called “King of New York.”

FAST: Back when the band started, which was obviously a phase, you cut to a band that’s still doing its thing 30 years later. Obviously, there’s gonna be some changes. I moved overseas in 2006. Frank joined the band in 2003, Naim joined the band in 2021, so it’s naturally had this progression. The band is obviously heavily influenced by a lot of UK acts. I think it’s important that we don’t lose sight of where we came from, but at the same time we’re not in places now where we’d be writing songs about New York City. It’s changed so much, but it was very important for us back in the ’90s, working at these nightclubs, seeing all these stories happening in New York, and being inspired by that.

Naim, relatively speaking, you’re the new kid on the block for Fun Lovin’ Criminals. What’s your thoughts on all this?

Naim Cortazzi: When I joined the band, like Fast said, was in late 2021. I obviously didn’t experience that long hiatus between records, so as soon as I joined, the plan was to record. In the first year, we recorded the Roosevelt Sessions EP. We toured that around Europe. Then we did the Capistrano Sessions, another EP, toured that around Europe, and then the album. So, from my experience, it’s been relentless recording. I’ve kind of felt this wave of creativity since I joined the band. The band is on fire, you know? Regarding coming to America, I didn’t expect that I’d be able to enjoy a trip like this. Frank and Fast have worked really hard to make this happen for the fans over here.

Frank Benbini: That’s what it’s all about as you get older. It’s just about the fans, and as an artist just being able to do what you create live. Sometimes we’ll make some money; a lot of the times we won’t make any money, but there’s more to life than just that. Obviously, we have to try and make it at least break even, which sometimes is tough in this day and age, especially after the COVID bollocks, but we’re still doing it and we’re still in it to win it.

FAST: Frank and I realized when Huey left the band that it was like, “Well, how are we gonna do this?” And one thing we realized is we worked with so many different managers, we’re like Spinal Tap in the sense of having all these different managers. They’ve all come in, called in their favors to people to make it look like they were on top of their game, and respect to them, that was great. It got our foot through some doors. But then once those favors are used up, they couldn’t really do much. Frank and I realized: why are they getting 20% for doing very little, and then we do all the stuff that would happen regardless if we had a manager? Frank and I are basically running the whole operation.

We got a guy, Wayne, who helps us answer emails and stuff, but we learned that we can do it ourselves. It’s a lot more work, but at least we can’t blame anyone but ourselves. We also can handpick hotels. You give criteria to tour managers—windows that open, and good shower pressure, and all these lists of requirements for every aspect of being in a touring band. Then you show up, and if it’s a shit hotel, you tend to get pissed off, so we can’t blame anyone else but ourselves. We often blame Naim for things he had nothing to do with, but it’s good. He’s our patsy. The operation’s working.

Frank Benbini: [Speaking of touring and booking hotels] Over the years, I kind of prefer the West Coast, even though I’m rocking my New York Yankees hat. I just like the energy, the people are laid back. Like I said before, San Francisco is a big thing for me, because my mum lived here for a period of time. I’ve got a massive love for Bruce Lee, and [San Francisco] is where he first went to university. We’re actually planning a band and crew trip to the Bruce Lee Museum. It’s obviously the sunshine and then clearly the only real reason, if I’m honest, that we’re even back over here is In-N-Out Burger.

I had that for the first time two years ago.

Frank Benbini: What did you think?

It was like God kissed me on the cheek and said everything was going to be okay.

Frank Benbini: This is what I’m saying, Bill! This is what I’m saying.

FAST: I’m sure we’ll have one today. It’ll probably be a part of every day we’re here the next 6 days.

Back to the music … with the lineup change was there any trepidation when you’re coming out with a new record and going on tour because your singer was a big part of the band for a long time?

FAST: You know what? Frank and I knew this was coming a long time ago. Creatively, Frank and I still had a hell of a lot to say, because our FOC formula is something that can go on forever. We’re inspired by so many different genres of music.

There was a little bit of hesitation, but then we realized I need to be the one taking over the vocals and let’s get another guitar player. Trying to get another singer who’s going to have that same persona as Huey, which we did not want, wasn’t going to be easy.

So the natural idea was to get me in there doing vocals and finding a guitar player. Naim and Frank have known each other for decades. Naim’s an incredibly versatile guitar player, so he fit right in. We did rehearsals which is something the band never really did. We’ve now worked up a 60-plus song discography of what we can play live. Obviously, that’s limited a bit with the lack of equipment in America, but the fact that we can dig through a bunch of old songs that Frank and I ain’t played for 20 years is really cool. But yeah, man, no looking back, just looking forward, and things have been great. Like we’ve been saying, two EPs and an album, always writing new music. I’m looking at palm trees and blue skies, life is good.

So, Naim, what drew you to the band? Obviously, you knew Frank.

Naim Cortazzi: The band’s been a big part of my life for a long time. I was in a band with Frank, 25, 26, 27 years ago already. So when he joined the Fun Loving Criminals in 2003, he brought me on board as part of the crew. I was a roadie for the band in 2003 for the Welcome to Poppy’s album. I got to tour all around Europe with them. I fell in love with the setup, the boys, and the music. After that, I helped out with a little bit of engineering. When Frank wanted to record drum parts or put ideas down for FLC, I’d be going to gigs all the time, on and off, and helping out with the crewing, so it’s been a big part of my life. I ended up working with the Happy Mondays for six years. I ended up working with a British soul sensation called Beverly Knight, and a couple of other acts touring around Europe. So Fun Lovin’ Criminals has always been foundational in my music journey.

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Bill Bodkin
Bill Bodkinhttps://thepopbreak.com
Bill Bodkin is the editor-in-chief and co-founder of Pop Break, and most importantly a husband, and father. Ol' Graybeard writes way too much about wrestling, jam bands, Asbury Park, Disney+ shows, and can often be seen under his seasonal DJ alias, DJ Father Christmas. He is the co-host of Pop Break's flagship podcast The Socially Distanced Podcast (w/Amanda Rivas) which drops weekly as well as TV Break and Bill vs. The MCU.
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