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A Psychedelic Supernova: ISTA on Their New Music, Their New Jersey Debut & More

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Has a song ever stopped you dead in your tracks? Is there a song you never knew you needed in your life, but the moment it hits your sense of sound it causes you to turn into Will Ferrell from Step Brothers where you just yell for everyone to “please shut up!” because you need to let this song envelope your soul?

For this writer the song was “Do What Feels Right” by the band ISTA.

On October 26, 2023, a normal work day at my daily grind and 90.5 the Night (Brookdale Community College’s independent radio station) was playing its usual mix of indie delectability and Jersey Shore classics. Then like a wicked fuzzed out groove shattered my morning malaise with the intensity of three Irish coffees. The sound coming off the small Alexa in the office felt like Cake had just done a whole bunch of acid and then decided to to the desert for an all-night bender with Fu Man Chu and created this unfathomably catchy song that bounces around your soul with reckless danceable abandon.

ISTA is a band that is on the cusp of something special. This seven-piece supernova of sound is just scratching the surface of their greatness and it’s only a matter of time before we see this band’s name plastered across all the big festival posters and is that hip band so many of us will regale anyone who’ll listen with the story of how we heard them before anyone else.

Recently, we caught up with Rex Costello (vocals, guitar) and Ollie Hart (guitar) of ISTA to discuss the band’s sojourn from the West Coast to the East Coast, the origin story of their name, working with renowned producer Sam Cohen and so much more. The band is set to play their first show ever in New Jersey (their new home) at The Wonder Bar in Asbury Park on Friday June 13th along with Francie Moon and Sun Dog. The show will be for the release of their new single, “Waves.”

So, I hate asking this question but I was really intrigued by the band’s name. I figured it was a cool name, so I did a little research and found out via Google that it’s an acronym for “In Sound to All” — can you confirm if this is true?

Rex Costello: Yeah, it kind of developed out of that. I wouldn’t say it’s why we made it the band name more than it was a word that we liked.

Ollie Hart: It was happenstance.

Let’s talk about this happenstance.

RC: Well, Ollie and I used to have a band called Ecstatic Union.

Definitely heard of that band.

RC: Well, there’s Ecstatic Vision. You’ve probably heard that. Ecstatic Union was a thing where people would be like “Oh, I’ve heard of them!” and they always think, Ecstatic Vision. Even our manager when we first met him was like “I was looking at your stuff and you guys played this and that.” And of course, it was that Ecstatic Vision thing again, which used to happen to us like on tour all the time.

But also that band name didn’t feel right. We were recording a new record with our now producer, Sam Cohen, in Brooklyn in 2019. Working with him  was just like such a new evolution for us — the sounds we were getting and the more collaborative nature of the music as it was evolving. We just felt like a new name was appropriate. Even while we were Ecstatic Union, we were always kind of like mentally masturbating about band names. “What about this one? What about that?” And it was maddening. But we felt the drive — we needed a new band name. Out of what was on this huge list of names [we chose ISTA]. I had called a song that actually I called it “Ista.” It’s funny, it’s actually the name of so many organizations on the Internet.

We were playing in another band at the time during that transition [from Ecstatic Union to ISTA] called Kunzite. During those rehearsals a friend of ours was a part of another ISTTA organization and we just really liked the way that it sounded. Then there was this Pakistani record in the living room where we were all hanging out. It was a Pakistani psychedelic vinyl compilation and I put my hands over the part of the “ista” in it, and it just looked so rad. We were just like — there it is. Also we had Istanbul symbols on the drum kit. I was playing it and our friend came over, and all the rest of the letters had faded out. So he saw the letters “ISTA” and he pointed it out. We just felt like we were getting these signs.

OH: The creation of the ISTA logo came from that Pakistani [lettering] and we edited it a bit. So the inspiration for the first logo was that record.

Earlier you mentioned working with Sam Cohen who has worked with Norah Jones, Shakira, Joseph Arthur, and Bob Weir. He’s also one of the first artists we ever interviewed on Pop Break. How did you come together to work with him? And what wisdom or insight did you take away from the experience of working with such a prolific musician?

RC: Our good friend Augustine (whose birth name is Justin Roloff) used to be in a band called The Anniversary back in the day. They used to tour with Sam’s old band, Apollo Sunshine. Justin is one of our really close friends and he actually was in the other band, Kunzite, that Ollie and I were playing in. We were moving the project (Ecstatic Union) out to New York. Ollie and I were starting our tours in New York and going back West from there. I don’t remember how it came up with Augustine other than that he was like, “Oh, Sam is in New York now like you got to get together.”

Oh, you know what happened. Actually I was served. “Let the Mountain Come to You” the Sam Cohen track on my Spotify in like 2018. I was just like “this is fantastic” and I listened to it a bunch and I got into the whole record [Cool It]. I was listening to it all the time and [eventually] I saw “similar artists” [on Spotify] and Apollo Sunshine was right there at the top.

I was like, “That’s a familiar name […] doesn’t Augustine know those guys or something?” [So I reached out to Augustine and asked] “Do you know who Sam Cohen is?” His  text was like “Yeah he’s from Apollo Sunshine. Oh, you guys are in New York now, and Sam’s in New York. You guys should connect.” I think he just gave me [Sam’s] email and Augustine said “Tell him I sent you.” Also our friend Jim Valentine in Austin, who has Coil Audio — they make really cool handmade pre-amplifiers, they’re close with him.

So I just kind of was like, “Hey, I’m friends with Jim Valentine and Justin Roloff’s, and we’d love to work with you that they gave us your contact.” [Sam] said anyone who’s friend of Justin and Jim’s are friends of mine like. We met up with him when his studio was in DUMBO [section of Brooklyn] in the beginning of 2019 before an Ecstatic Union tour. We pumped out two songs in two and a half days.

That was when everything started to change. [We thought] these were the next beginnings of the next Ecstatic Union album. And then, as we kept recording with him, we’re like …  this is its own thing. I wanted to relieve myself of the guitar. Really, the more we were playing live as Ecstatic Union, the more it was clear to me that I wanted to be more freed up and like to move and express myself physically. So the iteration of the new band [ISTA] was starting from there. Working with Sam felt so good, sonically, it was so fresh. There was a really nice challenge edge there. He’d be like “Why don’t we do this? Why don’t we mix it up? Why don’t we try this? Why don’t we move this here? What if we cut that down there?” It was the first for us to be really working with a producer.

We worked with our close friend Thomas [Dolas], who plays with The Oh Sees. We’re all friends from high school, and we did an Ecstatic Union album with him. It was like semi-producing [because] it was a lot more — “Okay, let’s do that! Okay, that sounds fun!” Whereas working with Sam was more collaboration. If I’m getting in my head too much, he’s like, “Why don’t you pass Ollie the guitar?” I’m like duh! Just getting me out of my own [way] when I get like one-track minded. He pretty quickly just started writing the bass parts for the songs, too and we just told him to cover it. We went from multi-tracking like piece by piece [but with Sam] we started just tracking with Sam altogether. So Sam on bass, Evan [Eubanks] on drums, me and Ollie playing guitar and getting all of our basics as a band together.

[Sam] revolutionized our experience of recording all around. There’s these nice tension points too. We might get stuck somewhere, and it might get frustrating and we might need to just go get a snack or take a break, or just pivot. There’s a really creative and dynamic balance of tension and release with Sam, that really revolutionized our process. He’s just such a joy to work with. Now we work with him at Slow Fawn which is his family property.

OH: The recording difference was a shift from going from underground in DUMBO to this property in Upstate New York. It’s a totally different experience recording which I feel influences and lends itself to the music we’re making now up there.

The song of yours that really grabbed me was “Do What Feels Right.” When that chorus hits and the bass and guitar just start ripping together it’s just so undeniably smooth, groovy and just wildly danceable. At the same time it’s also just so tight and efficient like the band knows exactly when to hit the groove in the song. Does this come from years of touring, or more in-studio?

RC: I think some of it is with that song in particular, is the Drop D. The low E string is tuned to Drop D in that one. I wrote that chorus part originally. I’m originally from Catalina Island and I was out there on a trip. I was just sitting on my bed and that riff just kind of slowly came out of me. I recorded it into Garageband. When we brought it to Sam he helped tighten it up. Actually, it was even more loose. That chorus … there was even less space between the chords and a little bit more accenting with the right hand rhythmically.

You mentioned new music, I’ve listened to the new singles – “Megawatt” and “Aim for the Heart.” They’re pretty great. Tell us about the new record? When can we expect it? And just talk about kind of how you’ve evolved from that 1st album to where you’re going for the new album. 

RC: Being up at Slow Fawn is a big part of the new record. We’re all up there together. We sleep in the studio overnight. I mean, Sam goes back down with his family at night. But, it’s like Dad goes to bed and we’re all just like up in the studio.

Before there was so much energy [spent on] travel, because [going to] DUMBO you wake up pretty early, get on the train, go there, go underground, whereas [at Slow Fawn] you just wake up in the space up there. So our day-to-day was a lot different, It’s obviously less stressful and more unified because people aren’t all coming in at different times. It’s not “Oh, Evan’s gonna come at this time.” Then me and Ollie would show up and different people would funnel in on the day where now we’re all there together in the forest.

Also, Evan has more input on arranging. The album is more percussive and a lot of these songs were built from a rhythm perspective. Before other [elements] were added we built up [songs] with percussion and that’s how we made “Aim for the heart.” We basically built the drum track. We had had iterations of that song over the years – the verse parts and parts of the chorus – but it took on a whole new spirit after we built out the just dance drums underneath.

It’s extremely danceable, even for a 40+ year old dad. What’s wild to me is that this band is so tight and yet you’ve only been a band for such a brief period of time. It feels like you’ve been a unit that’s been on the road grinding and growing together for at least a decade. What do you attribute to how efficiently you all perform together? In the same vein do you feel like you’ve even hit the tip of the iceberg of what you can do as a band?

RC:  Ollie, and I have been playing music together in some capacity since we were 18. With Sam even though we’ve only been working together and known each other since 2019, he’s been friends with one of our best friends for another 20 years before. So there’s like this real familial energy. There’s definitely like family vibes all around. I mean, Evan is a longtime friend who we wanted to be in a band with forever. Dion [West – vocalist] and I are together and we have two kids together. I think that’s what translates to our synergy as a unit.

I’d like to go back to the difference between the two records. The first album there was a lot more writing over time and backlogging. The song “Crystallized” came out of a jam that we did on a tour with Ecstatic Union and we brought years later to Sam. I smushed that with another song I wrote on an acoustic guitar years before that jam. There were a lot more things that came over time with that album, while the new album poured out of me as demos a year after my first son was born. I’d write it at our little home studio in New Jersey when I found time. Before we moved to the East Coast we came more prepared and had our ducks in a row in certain whereas with this album in turns of bringing ideas and working on it till it was done.

ISTA plays at The Wonder Bar on Friday June 13 in Asbury Park, NJ. Click here for tickets.

Bill Bodkin
Bill Bodkinhttps://thepopbreak.com
Bill Bodkin is the editor-in-chief and co-founder of Pop Break, and most importantly a husband, and father. Ol' Graybeard writes way too much about wrestling, jam bands, Asbury Park, Disney+ shows, and can often be seen under his seasonal DJ alias, DJ Father Christmas. He is the co-host of Pop Break's flagship podcast The Socially Distanced Podcast (w/Amanda Rivas) which drops weekly as well as TV Break and Bill vs. The MCU.
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